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Environment committee  Sure. There are a number of things there. In terms of carbon pricing, I'm not the expert on carbon pricing. We have a dedicated team in Environment Canada that have come before this committee several times. I can't delve into any great detail on the design of the carbon pricing system, but it's certainly been a topic of lots of debate.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  That's not part of the plan. The plan is as it's laid out with the regular schedule, running up to $50 a tonne by 2022. That is the plan. That's our focus. As I mentioned earlier on, this is a sequential process. We're looking to implement our policies to achieve Paris targets; then we'll set future targets and go from there.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  I think so; that's the plan. Certainly we've seen a quite significant emission reduction so far. Our emissions are projected to go down quite significantly into the future, based on the policies that have been implemented so far. Those emission reduction projections—what's in them, what the assumptions are, and so forth—are laid out in these reports that are available online and that are done on a regular basis.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  Are you talking about the one-year target, the 2020 target from the Copenhagen conference?

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  That one is a more challenging target than the 2030 target, for sure.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  I don't know if we're going to meet it. We'll know in 2021 when we have data on our emissions. We've been implementing a whole suite of policies as aggressively and as quickly as we can in order to generate the emission reductions in the near term that we need in order to get on the path.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  No. If we implement the policies within the pan-Canadian framework as designed and laid out, that will achieve the emission reductions required, particularly if you include the other important investments that are happening now in advancing clean technologies and in infrastructure, things like public transit and other things.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  I have just one minor thing to add: there's also the Clean Growth Hub that I think we've talked to this committee about. Companies specifically told us that because there were so many different programs and initiatives and funds, both domestically and internationally, it would be great if there was a service that could help them navigate all of those things.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  I'll cover the front end, and then others can add on the international initiatives and the various trade agreements and the provisions in them. Our view at Environment Canada, speaking on behalf of my colleagues in our regulatory branch, is that the best way to avoid carbon leakage is to design smart policies and to do the analysis necessary to ensure that we understand the competitiveness positions of Canadian companies.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  It's a good question, and there are a lot of different scenarios. In terms of our approach to emission reductions, we've really been looking at this as a sort of stepwise, sequential process. We're very much aware that achieving our Paris targets is only a step in the process, and it's not like we can declare victory after that step, because as the IPCC reminded us recently, and as we have known for a very long time, the total global reductions needed are far beyond those that are being contemplated at the moment.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  I'll go first, and others can certainly add. I think there's a lot to be learned from a number of other countries. We have gone through the experiences. Part of the benefit of the UN reporting mechanism Catherine mentioned, the regular reports, is not just having GHG information but also understanding how other countries are grappling with the same sources and what policy tools they're using.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  Certainly in the European Union, they've had a trading system for quite some time, and that's been one key piece of their overall approach to pursuing emission reductions. We have seen quite significant reductions within the European Union, but in other countries as well, a growing number, as I think this committee heard from my colleague John Moffet, and others, on this topic.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  Generally, transportation tends to be a little harder, because there are a large number of diffuse sources. There are lots of good European examples. There are a lot of energy efficiency initiatives in a number of countries, particularly in Asia. Japan is a good example of a very resource-efficient economy that has pursued emission reductions through efficiency gains.

October 16th, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones

Environment committee  Thanks for the question. This being a brand new program, we needed to establish the parameters around how it would be operated, what its scope would be, and how the guidance would be provided to provinces to ensure that we would have proper oversight and review of the individual programs.

March 1st, 2018Committee meeting

Matt Jones