Transport committee  Yes, absolutely.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Yes, it would show up on my call display, because I have his number in my system.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  I guess I can refer back to my opening remarks and also the statement I made earlier, that I was quite surprised that there was any negativity associated with my call. Certainly, as I said in my initial remarks, if there was an issue, I still remain puzzled as to why, given that I have a good working relationship with Holbrook, he didn't come back to me and ask me to explain myself.

Transport committee  I think in the lexicon of Transport Canada civil aviation we tend to talk about issues. It's rather a neutral term. It doesn't become pejorative at the outset. So yes, it's a common term, both in French and English, that I use to talk about things that need to be discussed.

Transport committee  Again, as I said before, I can't speak to how she heard the words I said. I can only refer to what she says the words were and what my intention was in making the phone call.

Transport committee  It reads: “...Transport Canada official called my office after learning that the CFPA was to testify and stated, 'It will be a problem' if any TC inspectors appear before your committee to talk about safety concerns.” Mr. Chairman, I do not see that type of phraseology in the affidavit, so it's just about impossible for me to comment on words I may not have said.

Transport committee  Absolutely.

Transport committee  No, of course not.

Transport committee  You'd have to ask her. I have no idea how she perceives me. She has to make that decision herself. All I can tell you is that it certainly wasn't my intention to--

Transport committee  I am totally surprised, Mr. Zed, especially since I'm on record with my disciplinary policy and my attempt at transparency in civil aviation. I am totally surprised.

Transport committee  I don't believe so, Mr. Chair. The allegations were associated with a phone call I made to the office of the bargaining agent for the pilot inspectors based on the fact that I understood the context was meeting 35, at which direct reference was made to inspectors appearing here.

Transport committee  I cannot confirm that those are the words I used, because frankly I don't remember. It was some time between the 14th and the 21st of February. I thought no more about it until Mr. Holbrook appeared before this committee on the 21st. I had no idea what words were being bandied about.