Natural Resources committee  Okay. It seems to me this technology represents a significant export capability for us. Having been with NB Power when we first sent people to Terra Nova back in the early nineties, I know it created a significant revenue stream. You've talked about the 900 engineers we have too, which is no insignificant amount to the economy.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you.

Natural Resources committee  No, I'll be fine.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thanks, gentlemen, for your presentations. I have three questions. One is about the fuel in our reserves, with respect to being able to sustain this. I know that future reactors will be able to use less. A company named Geodex Minerals, I think, has made a discovery in New Brunswick that potentially....

Natural Resources committee  Thank you.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for your presentations. I've got a couple of quick questions. I want to pick up on the theme that we can't clean anything up that we have. That concerns me more than a bit. Are you aware of the Phoenix technology? It's based on the technology that captures the emissions from the space shuttle as it takes off.

Natural Resources committee  I'll get you the information. It just concerns me that we're throwing our arms up in the air and we can't do anything to replace it with this kind of technology out there. Second, what are the practical limits when you look at where carbon dioxide can be stored? What is the practical limit for transporting it to any particular area?

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for your presentations. I have two really quick questions. I hope we can get them in. Slide 11 of the cogeneration challenges talks about two of the challenges: industrial cogenerators not always being able to sell the excess power in the grid; and obtaining access to the transition grid may be costly and time-consuming.

Natural Resources committee  Okay. My second question is for Mr. Lazar. I am very sympathetic to your early adopter case for the forest industry in terms of lowering your greenhouse gases, in the nineties especially, because there are a few who have done that in New Brunswick. New Brunswick, of course, is exporting a lot of chips and stuff to sell, and they're burning it in Maine right now.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Natural Resources committee  Are those assumptions available?

Natural Resources committee  Okay. Slide 13 talks about residential prices as well. All the stats you've given have been for the residential side. Certainly, I can understand that, but the other side of this is the commercial and industrial rate structures. How do those commercial and industrial rate structures compare?

Natural Resources committee  On slide 16 you talk about the eco-energy renewable power. There are four examples, which use wind, biomass, hydro, and solar. It's particularly relevant when you talk about a 1¢-per-kilowatt-hour incentive over ten years for new projects constructed in the next four years. Realistically, you're not going to build any hydro project over the next four years unless it's already sited or it already has environmental permits.

Natural Resources committee  The last question I have is on slide 22. You talk about the potential energy savings in each of the categories. In residential, there are savings of up to 27% by 2025, industrial savings of 14% by 2025, and commercial savings of 23% by 2025. With respect to each of these categories, are you assuming those to be steady-state savings, or front-end-loaded savings, or are you assuming we'll achieve those more towards the 2025 timeframe?