Natural Resources committee  I'd just like to add on that as well that two years ago, when I ordered x number of cars in the course of a week, I would normally get those cars through their guaranteed system. Now when I order cars, I get guaranteed only half of that. They don't have the cars in the system because they've put them in storage.

Natural Resources committee  Basically the two mills I'm talking about, Longlac and Nakina, and also McKenzie and Hudson, are on the main line, and the main-line trains are already maxed out when they leave Toronto or when they're coming to Toronto, so they don't have the facility to pick up extra cars. If they're running three maxed-out trains a day, they don't want to incorporate the fourth one if it's not going to be 100% utilized at the same time.

Natural Resources committee  The major problem with the CN northern route is that I can't see how you'd have five people doing that route. The problem is they don't have the assets to move the volume that they're moving. Consequently, their trains are too long, and they can't pick up the stuff we have. So I don't think having ten carriers there is going to work.

Natural Resources committee  Also, I'd like to mention our two mills at Longlac and Nakina. They're about 95% serviced by rail because we can't truck from Longlac to Atlanta or to other areas. Rail is the only viable way of doing the types of volumes we're doing for the distances we travel.

Natural Resources committee  May I have one second, also? I'm Hal Brindley. We have two lumber mills, Longlac and Nakina, and of 700 cars we've ordered at those two mills since January, we've only had about 380, or less than 56%. Not only do we have the cars that Marta has already talked about getting to the mills, but once they're at the mills, they park them on sidings waiting for room on a main line to take them out.