Natural Resources committee  It will take years. It is a step-by-step procedure. It is going to take years.

Natural Resources committee  I don't want to make a big thing out of this, but there are small uses for CO2 right now, such as in greenhouses and to make dry ice. There are some mineralization projects beginning to take place; the CO2 could be turned into useful minerals. I mentioned earlier that we're involved with Shell Gas, where CO2 could be used for enhanced gas recovery.

Natural Resources committee  Globally, the Europeans are waiting on moving forward in trying to develop their projects. China is already moving ahead. If you want to get anything done in this world, do it in China. You can do it quickly and efficiently. I think everybody is now waiting for the United States.

Natural Resources committee  Thank you. My name is John Osborne. I'm filling in for Jessie Inman, who is normally based in Calgary but he is caught up in volcanic ash at the moment. I'm going to give a very quick overview of HTC and our business, and then lead into tar sands and a proposal that we believe is the way to move forward on CO2 capture at those sorts of operations.