Fisheries committee  That's correct. We understand they don't have permission to release to us any information, any documents.

Fisheries committee  I understand that they've been working on things within the department. In fact they referenced a three-pager that they're trying to seek permission to release to us. So we do know that there are some documents and things that they have been using with their engagement sessions.

Fisheries committee  They've just told us that they don't have authorization to release those documents.

Fisheries committee  [Inaudible--Editor]...that document is, I understand that there was a powerpoint used by Mr. Kamp at some meetings. I believe there was one at the AMC meeting; the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs had referenced it. So some of these meetings that have occurred.... I believe there was also one referenced in the Yukon as well.

Fisheries committee  Yes. We had requested some background materials so that it would assist us to formulate our own analysis of what was contained in Bill C-38, and now we're faced with Bill C-45. We suggested during our brief technical meeting with DFO...to produce four helpful documents that we could disseminate to first nations as well as take a look at so that it would assist us in doing our outreach with first nations.