Justice committee  I think that's a specific piece of information that's going to vary from province to province and if you're looking for a specific example, we will get that to you. We will have to provide that to your analyst after our testimony. Ultimately, an impaired conviction has an immediate impact on the insurance rates of the individual.

Justice committee  Obviously, those types of devices that don't allow for drinking and driving or impaired driving are going to reduce risk, so that would definitely play into the premium rates available and the ability to get coverage, and that would definitely impact rates.

Justice committee  I would say, in this particular instance, determining intoxication is the key piece. You have prescription driving occurring. You have distracted driving occurring. I think what ultimately needs to be looked at is the level of risk and the level of intoxication. We need to be able to identify that, and I think that's a training issue for sure.

Justice committee  —or at least touch on them or promise to get you information. It was interesting in listening to the previous testimony, I had the same thought with regard to stats about the effectiveness of stiffer penalties. It's certainly something of interest, but not anything that we have access to or any information on right now.

Justice committee  Thank you, Peter. Before I start, I want to thank Sheri for sharing her difficult and moving story in relation to the topics we're discussing tonight. It puts my own trepidation about coming before you guys into the proper light, considering the challenges that she goes through every day.

Justice committee  Thank you.