Finance committee  The reason for that is that our children's names are not actually on the list. Our children are name matched to somebody on the list. So whoever it is whose name is on the list has a legal recourse for redress. Our children are not the actual people whose names are on the list, so these kids are caught in a grey zone where, because they're not the names on the list, they don't have access to that recourse.

Finance committee  Okay. As far as our understanding goes, the office exists basically in name only. I don't know if it's even staffed, to be honest with you. We have applied. They have some sort of application process online that we have applied to, but the response is always basically the same as the response from before the office was announced.

Finance committee  I want to clarify. Do you mean the passenger protect inquiries office, the PPIO?

Finance committee  Thank you for having us here today. We are a part of the organization called the No Fly List Kids. We're a group of Canadians whose names are flagged on Canada's no-fly list, otherwise known as the passenger protect program. The attention that this antiquated system has received is international to the point where it was even mentioned by Conan O'Brien on the late show back in February of 2016.