International Trade committee  We would say it is to ensure the unhindered flow of goods between Canada and the U.S. These goods are essential for a lot of reasons, as they keep people working all around the country, so we have to make sure that we lessen the administrative burden and at the same time protect access to markets without undue occupation or stoppage of the infrastructure.

International Trade committee  I don't know. I wasn't there.

International Trade committee  I don't understand the question.

International Trade committee  It's approximately 10,000.

International Trade committee  They're owned by the stock market.

International Trade committee  Approximately, yes. We've been pretty stable.

International Trade committee  It must be pretty small these days because China has taken over Asian markets.

International Trade committee  It all depends on the dynamics of the markets, both in Asia—

International Trade committee  It's 3.2 million tonnes.

International Trade committee  They all are.

International Trade committee  I'm sorry. I totally disagree with your statement.

International Trade committee  I'm sorry, but no, I totally disagree.

International Trade committee  May I answer? Yes, the facts.... We have invested over $15 billion in the remodernization of the plants in Canada over that same period of time. Over that same period of time, the U.S. went from 14 smelters to three, and Europe has gone down by 60%. Canada now produces 85% of all the metal produced in North America.

International Trade committee  Canada produces metal responsibly and with the lowest carbon footprint in the world. In future agreements on carbon border adjustment mechanisms, we must ensure that our metal, within the parameters that will be decreed, finds its rightful place. We have to make sure that, in the future, we manage to monetize its low carbon footprint, which isn't the case at the moment.

International Trade committee  We remember that case. A Chinese billionaire used aluminum to move his fortune out of China. The aluminum reserve was discovered in the Mexican desert from an airplane flight before being repatriated to Vietnam. We're talking billions of dollars. Such a scenario would be impossible in Canada, which has a very robust import control system for aluminum, including mandatory reporting by importers.