Information & Ethics committee  Right. In terms of charity transparency, if you take a look at a site in America called GuideStar, you will see that GuideStar has the Form 990s for each of the American 501(c)(3)s that have to file there. You can see that sometimes it's 100 pages, 200 pages of material. It's a lot of material.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm not saying we should follow the Americans; I'm saying we should look and see what others are doing and learn from it.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you very much.

Information & Ethics committee  No, no , no. First of all, I agree with you. Canada summer jobs is a great program. Let's double it. It's a fantastic program.

Information & Ethics committee  No, not directly. It would have gone to WE Charity, and then WE Charity, at their discretion, would have doled it out to students, which is a position of tremendous power. If any one charity has that level of power, I'm concerned.

Information & Ethics committee  No, it was not $543 million that WE Charity, if they did the program, would have got to keep, but the amount—

Information & Ethics committee  I was never provided with those documents. If you want to provide me with documents, I'm happy to look at them.

Information & Ethics committee  Oh, absolutely; I've read excerpts and things such as that.

Information & Ethics committee  I have seen that, and I also believe that there was a little issue that some disclosure wasn't provided to some of the committees about certain meetings. However, the point is that I agree. That is what ESDC is saying, and if that is correct, there's a bigger problem that will not be solved by Mr.

Information & Ethics committee  I don't know what you mean by “engaged to work in the program”.

Information & Ethics committee  I have spoken to teachers who have done certain things, but no, I haven't spoken to specific teachers who were engaged in this program.

Information & Ethics committee  I could guess, but first of all, the question is not really correct, because we're not trying to get high school students to get this grant. In my understanding, this was really geared towards university students; otherwise, you could have got kindergarten teachers to get involved as well.

Information & Ethics committee  —or the YWCA and YMCA. Lots of different organizations have tremendous capacity in Canada to do tremendous work. In fact, I think you should be asking ESDC this question, because they have actually contracted—

Information & Ethics committee  Absolutely. Mr. Erskine-Smith, I think you've been one of the most forthright Liberals I've seen talking about this issue, but I'll tell you, first of all, that so much of this information could be provided in about one day by the Liberal Party, the government and WE Charity. For example, I don't know, but have you reviewed ME to WE's financial statements?

Information & Ethics committee  —if they wanted to provide it. That's the only reason we need it. Provide the information by tomorrow and there won't be a problem.