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Agriculture committee  I think there are a couple of things. First, it is difficult to establish exactly what that threshold is. Perhaps my colleagues who will be appearing later from that department will have more to say on that. Also, it was done in a relatively expeditious way, so there was not perhaps as much opportunity to do some of the things we've been asked about today in terms of analysis ahead of time, but it's certainly something that we're taking back and we'll be considering further as we go forward.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  If you're interested in knowing whether I have that information now, I do not.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Do you mean the avian influenza?

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Again, I think that would be for—

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  I believe that would be for the CFIA, which is going to be appearing after this.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  I would say that I hope we have found the right balance. Clearly, we understand that there are concerns being raised here today and we have been mindful of those, and that's why we wanted to put a monitoring system in place that is looking at things quite carefully. The overall purpose of the order was to provide benefit for Ukraine, so I think we can't lose sight of that, but as I said, it has to be balanced with what the impacts are here in Canada, and that's what the monitoring is intending to do.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  No. This is a fairly unique instance, not just with respect to the supply management aspect, but to having something where all imports from a particular country are affected. I think that reflects the really unique circumstances we're in with respect to Ukraine.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  We're in contact with those various countries through different mechanisms on a regular basis on the overall responses to Ukraine, so those conversations do continue.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Yes, I would say the same thing. We didn't specifically look at that and who was benefiting. I mean, we're aware of the companies that are there, but as we've heard, they're not certified just yet, so it's a little bit hard to have a good understanding of what those impacts might be.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Yes, that's correct.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Ultimately, the minister is the one taking the decision and making the recommendation to the Governor in Council. That's how it comes into force. Ultimately, the decision is the minister's.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  This is what I do not feel very comfortable talking about. This is the decision-making process within government. As I said, we provided advice on the different elements that could be included because it includes both tariffs as well as trade remedy duties. We provided advice on those and the potential implications.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  On the supply-managed goods, as I may have noted before, we were aware, from our free trade negotiations with Ukraine, that there was an interest in the chicken market. On the scope and the exact nature of the interest, we did not have a lot of details. As I said, we did engage with Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada on that.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  Imports from zones occupied by Russia are prohibited, so we don't think there is any risk in that regard.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier

Agriculture committee  At this stage, knowing what we know, I would say no. I think the risks and the concerns that have been brought forward are something we need to monitor to see if there is the potential that there could be some risks, but as I've said, we are really trying to monitor things very closely and stand ready to make those assessments and react if need be.

November 28th, 2022Committee meeting

Michèle Govier