Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  There was an announcement that there will be funding for this program. The program details have not been finalized, because we need to get royal assent first. Then we'll work through our Treasury Board colleagues to establish the terms and conditions. However, yes, you are correct.

Public Safety committee  If somebody has a mental health case with a yellow flag, their PAL could be suspended for a while and then brought back, so the person could get it back. It's no different from what is happening right now with a red flag or a yellow flag. If the police deem that the person should not have their firearm, regardless of whether it's a handgun or not, the PAL could be revoked.

Public Safety committee  If you'll allow me, I'll start, and then my colleague , Mr. Taylor, may want to add something. What is proposed in the bill is that anybody—and let's say the doctor, in your example—will request the removal, through the red flag, of these firearms from the individual. They go to the court....

Public Safety committee  Obviously I cannot speak on behalf of the government for what it will or will not do. However, what I can say is that our minister has been vocal on his intent to give fair value as an incentive for people to return their guns to the government. I cannot really tell you what the final value will be or what the minister will do, but I can tell you that we are asked to provide sound advice on what the fair value of the guns will be.

Public Safety committee  It would be fair to say that we are reflecting on it when we hear that there is a problem. We are not hearing there is an issue with the price for every gun on the list that was provided. Maybe you're hearing otherwise, that there are some people who come with specific guns and say that the value of their gun is different.

Public Safety committee  If you'll allow me, I will start by answering the question. First of all, the red flag provisions in Bill C-21 do not remove the responsibility of law enforcement and the police to do what they have to do, as prescribed right now in the Criminal Code of Canada for the red flags.

Public Safety committee  I believe I've testified in this committee in the past that Bill C-21 not only addresses crimes but also addresses gender-based violence and mental health issues. It is important to bear in mind from my perspective as a policy wonk, if you wish, that the bill is really a step among many other pillars that are important.

Public Safety committee  I'll maybe say a couple of words. I met personally with the chief firearms officer from Alberta as well, and she has very strong views. I'm not here to argue her views. What is important is that the intent of the definition was to provide clarity on what kinds of guns we don't want in Canada.

Public Safety committee  I am part of the Department of Public Safety that provides the policy advice to the minister—for sure.

Public Safety committee  Maybe I'll start with the last question, Mr. Chair. Throughout our engagements on firearms, as the minister indicated, we've been also engaging in asking stakeholders, indigenous communities and gun owners for feedback on the price list that was provided publicly to gather this feedback and be able to provide informed advice to the government afterward.

Public Safety committee  Yes, absolutely.

Public Safety committee  As you know, owing to solicitor-lawyer privilege, I can't discuss that. In answer to your question, all I can say is that it's not the kind of information I'm able to reveal, whether or not it exists. I'm sorry.

Public Safety committee  I would reflect as well on my discussions with my colleagues internationally. Regarding ghost guns, if we want to have foresight policy, quite frankly this is a phenomenon that we're observing more and more as problematic. We hear it from police officers. Whether it's the components, whether it's the parts that are being used to add to something that is printed that is not heavy enough, these areas of concern are increasing in the country.

Public Safety committee  Obviously I'm not here to give any advice other than what we know. Actually, in the report from SECU that you brought forward, there were recommendations. I always refer to them when I have discussions with stakeholders or others to seek their opinion. I believe recommendations 29 and 30 of your report talked exactly to these issues.