Public Accounts committee  I believe it was Mr. Firth.

Public Accounts committee  He was one of the subcontractors through GC Strategies.

Public Accounts committee  No, sir.

Public Accounts committee  I believe I had a burger. There were appetizers and whatever Joey's food was.

Public Accounts committee  People had drinks.

Public Accounts committee  I had a beer.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, we were working long hours, and we were talking. My conversation was mostly about the challenges of implementing ArriveCAN from a technical point of view.

Public Accounts committee  That's absolutely correct. I didn't have much conversation with Mr. Firth or Mr. Anthony about programming. I was mostly speaking with the team members that I was working with.

Public Accounts committee  Other than greetings and offhand conversations about how life is, I didn't speak to him specifically.

Public Accounts committee  I apologize if I said no one talked to them. No one talked to them about coding. We were talking about people's lives, their day-to-day family issues, as if it was a social gathering. We absolutely did not talk specifically about any contracting issues or any financial matters.

Public Accounts committee  If there was anything about ArriveCAN we talked about, it was about the challenges of implementing ArriveCAN.

Public Accounts committee  I believe it was Joey's.

Public Accounts committee  I apologize. I do not have the exact date. I can provide it to you.

Public Accounts committee  If I recall correctly, there were maybe five people. It was between five and 10 people.

Public Accounts committee  I was there. Mr. Firth, his partner—I forget his name, but I believe it's Mr. Anthony—and Mr. Utano were there. I don't recall if Mr. MacDonald was there, but he may have been. Some other key members...contractors like Mr. Murphy.... That's about the number of people I can remember, sir.