Foreign Affairs committee  I'm very sorry you feel I'm speaking bafflegab. In fact, I rather thought I was really telling you what I had on my mind in explaining that there was hope in Haiti. I even gave you examples of that. The expression "donors" is a general expression. I don't think anyone should think we're only doing that.

Foreign Affairs committee  In the area of security, CIDA's main contribution has been to fund RCMP activities. That provided support for the Haitian national police department in order to develop a strategic plan and establish the plan's direction. In that case, we can't really boast of achieving a major feat in the area of security.

Foreign Affairs committee  MINUSTAH did recruitment to ensure election security. I don't know what document you're referring to.

Foreign Affairs committee  We can't consider that as Canada's responsibility. It's an overall responsibility. We haven't invested any money directly for that purpose.

Foreign Affairs committee  You're right; it's definitely a factor. However, as regards the police, I would point out that 1,540 police officers have been recruited and trained in the past two years. I can't say that involves Canadian money, but it was done with other funds. As you know, we intend to establish a police executive training centre in cooperation with other stakeholders.

Foreign Affairs committee  Specifically CIDA, yes; the RCMP, yes.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes, exactly, but it's a program of the MINUSTAH.

Foreign Affairs committee  We implemented justice support programs for some time. We put an end to that in the last 1990s because there was none of the political will that Stephen referred to. However, we have continued working in the area of demand for justice. To do this, we've cooperated with associations, lawyers and judges.

Foreign Affairs committee  Many have been completed, and that's why I think this document, when we get it, will give you more information about what has been completed and what should be completed.

Foreign Affairs committee  It's possible the correlation isn't perfect. In the document as it stands today, the correlation is no doubt not adequate. Your question is the same question as was asked by the new government in Haiti. Now the new government in Haiti is also working with the donors to try to look at this type of--

Foreign Affairs committee  For Canada, we are able to do that. Our document does that. For the other donors, it could be more difficult.

Foreign Affairs committee  I believe the majority of the donors have committed and have given what they pledged in Washington in 2004. Probably the United States and Canada have been the first to disburse the money and to support the new interim government. The banks, the IDB--the Inter-American Development Bank--and the World Bank, maybe were not so fast because probably they needed more time to design their new program and to be able to disburse.

Foreign Affairs committee  Three years.

Foreign Affairs committee  They're planning their future program in cooperation with the new government. They preferred to wait for an elected government because, as you know, there were some sensitivities between the CARICOM countries and the former government. Now that there's a new elected government, the planning has to be done, and the loans will follow.

Foreign Affairs committee  Thank you very much. I'd like to talk about hope in Haiti. With your permission, I'd say that hope in Haiti resides first in the Haitians. Fortunately, Haitian society is evolving; it isn't static. That evolution entails a number of positive factors. Let me give you four examples of that.