Maybe I could just comment on the important relationship we have with customers, which drives demand. I don't think that's really been identified as well as it needs to be, because we can produce cleaner energy. I'll give hydrogen as an example. In Vancouver we've had two hydrogen refuelling stations for years. The challenge we have is that nobody is driving hydrogen cars and that the trucks that consume the hydrogen are not yet economical for the truckers.
For us to produce the cleaner energy, with or without subsidy or any kind of government incentive, we need to have that relationship with customers. That then incentivizes us to make the investment so that they can in fact take that energy, which would produce lower emissions.
Technology can be driven by customer demand, and as I mentioned we're in this unique place today because our customers have made net-zero commitments, which then helps us to meet those commitments with lower-carbon energy.
Technology also today is not economical simply because it's not yet at scale. It hasn't been thoroughly commercialized. If we want to accelerate it, because it's necessary to meet our climate commitments, there is a role for government to help us do that through regulation and through incentives, because in and of itself, it won't happen in the time that we need it to. I think carbon capture and sequestration is an example of that. It is a technology that works, and it is a technology that every credible climate report recognizes as being critical to meeting our net-zero targets.